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SableGTO
10-27-2010, 01:34 PM
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This has taken longer than anticipated, but we finally held our Supercar Shootout August 11, 2010 at Gingerman Raceway. The weather was not the best. We drove to the track in style but in heavy rain. Pedders Camaro Supercar, Pedders Saleen Supercar, Pedders G8 Supercar, Pedders GTO Supercar, the Pedders HHR SS and a cargo van. Almost as soon as we pulled into the track gate the rain subsided.

We pulled under the canopies and began to setup our equipment. First up was the generator to power up the fans to cool the cars between runs. Then the data logging equipment and cameras. While food, drinks and swag were setup in the meeting rooms we sent out a fleet of cars to start drying the track.

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The last track day we held was a cool fall day. We had no issues with
heat soak and the engine computer pulling timing out based on high IATs.
Working with ProCharger we have a new intake that is more free flowing
and a ridiculous new inter-cooler with an integrated MAF mount.
This is a far more efficient setup. Because the ProCharger pulls air from the
engine compartment and not a factory style air box we did some intense
thermal management. The headers have been wrapped along with the
heater hoses that run across the plenum and the charge tube coming
out of the intercooler. We removed the factory sound insulation from the
plenum to allow it to breath. None of these are really meant to increase
RWHP, just to maintain the RWHP we see on the dyno and on cooler days.

The other major change we made to the Camaro was to install 2010 Cadillac
CTS-V brakes. Rumor has it that these are the same brakes that the new Z
28 Camaro will use. Wink, nod, wink. The brake bias is dead nuts perfect.
The CTS-V OE brake pads are a GREAT set of combination street and
track pad, but for our extreme track use we have had to do some pad
development. We worked with Cobalt Friction and will be running CF XR1
front and XR3 rear Carbon ceramic pads for the event. The brakes are a
substantial upgrade over the SS brakes with similar pads.

The third major change to the Camaro are the 52mm Remote Reservoir
Independent Bound and Rebound Supercar Coil Overs. We have the car
so dialed in it is off the charts. It is close to OE smooth on the street and
thisclosetoa race car on the track.

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Pedders Camaro
2010 Cadillac CTS-V Brakes Front and Rear
558 RWHP 499 RWTQ
ACS Hood and Front Spoiler
American Racing Headers
Brigestone RE-11 305/30/19 Tires Front and Rear
Cobalt Friction Carbon Ceramic Track ONLY Brake Pads
Fluidyne 2.5 Quart Oil Cooler
Forgeline Racing Wheels 19x10.5 Front and Rear with Special
Offsets to Square the Track
Insulated Cold Air Intake
Nickey Chicago Stinger II Hood
Pedders Adjustable Sway Bars with Adjustable Endlinks
(CAMAROSOLUTIONC)
Pedders Control Arm Bushes (EP7264, EP7322)
Pedders Steering Rack/Pinion Mount (EP2112)
Pedders Rear Trailing Arm Toe Link (EP7323)
Pedders Front Radius Rod Bushing (EP6577)
Pedders Complete Brake Hose Kit (PDUSACAM2800)
Pedders Full Alignment Kit (PDUSACAMFULL)
Pedders Paint Scheme
Pedders Heavy Duty Sub-Frame Bushes (EP1201HD)
Pedders Heavy Duty Rear Differential Mounts (EP1167HD)
Pedders Supercar Coil Overs (164086)
ProCharger with Stage II Race Intercooler and Intake
QTP Exhaust Cut Outs
SRF Brake Fluid
Wrapped Headers

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Pedders Saleen

Pedders USA started working with Saleen last year to develop a coil over set for the new S281. The coil overs pleased the Saleen people and we started to develop a strong relationship. Working with Saleen we are about to
release a full line of Saleen suspension bits. These parts are the foundation
for a S281 SR. The SR stands for Saleen Race.

449 RWHP 419 RWTQ
American Racing Headers
Bridgestone RE-11 305/30/19 Tires Front and Rear
Ford Racing Differential Cover
Saleen 15” Six Piston Front Brakes
Saleen Adjustable Panhard bar (06-1304-B19537A)
Saleen Adjustable Pinion Bush (06-1305-B19536A)
Saleen Adjustable Rear Control Arms (06-1304-B19542A)
Saleen Anti-Lift / Dive Kit (06-1305-B19533A)
Saleen Borla Exhaust
Saleen Carbon Ceramic Track ONLY Brake Pads
Saleen Control Arm Bushes (06-1304-B19543A)
Saleen Front Single Chassis Brace Bar Brace (06-1305-B19541A)
Saleen Front Triangulated Chassis Brace (06-1305-B19539A)
Saleen Insulated Cold Air Intake
Saleen Rear Chassis Brace (06-1305-B19540A)
Saleen SR Paint Scheme
Saleen SR Racing Wheels by Forgeline 19x10.5 Front and Rear with Special Offsets to Square the Track
Saleen Supercharger
Saleen Supercharger Compatible Strut Tower Bar (CS6TB)
Saleen Sway Bars with Adjustable Front Endlinks and Adjustable Front Bar (06-1303-B19530A)
Saleen Track Bar with Safety Harness (CSTTB05)
Saleen Track Coil overs with Camber Plates (06-1300-A19349A)
SRF Brake Fluid

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John Buttermore began his racing career at the age of 16 when he attended Skip Barber Racing School with his father at Road America where having hardly ever driven a stick shift car before instantly adapted and was the fastest driver in the school. Exactly 10 years later he returned to that same track in the CTS-V and broke the track record.

John’s racing career began with SCCA regional and PCA events driving a 1983 Porsche 944 in the ITS class. John began running full seasons at Waterford Hills Raceway in suburban Detroit during his summers home from college from 1999-2002. In that time he racked up numerous wins and poles on the local circuit.

In 2004 he joined the SCCA National circuit with the brand new Cadillac CTS-V in the Touring 2 class. 2005-6 Results are available on the Results Page.

In 2007 John drove both the CTS-V and the Corvette C6 throughout the season. John had a banner 2007 season winning 6 National events and finishing 2nd at the National Championships in T1 and 6th in T2. During this season John also took 3 new track records along the way, including one that was set in his first time in the C6 after starting last without qualifying!!!

The 2008 season brought great success as well where John won every national entered, won the divisional championship, and won the June Sprints by nearly 30 seconds. The 2008 Runoffs dealt John a lot of car problems, but with a great effort by the whole team John was poised to take the 2008 National Championship when the race was ended early under caution with John in the process of making a pass for the lead.

John is a vehicle dynamics engineer by professional and lives in Pontiac, MI. He holds a bachelors of Engineering from Cornell University, where he was also a member of the Varsity Football team, and a member of Delta Upsilon fraternity. Other interests include weightlifting, and recently completed his Masters degree from Purdue University.

Summary:
Started racing overall in 1999
National competition started in 2004
Raced SCCA T2 in a Cadillac CTS-V
Raced SCCA T1 in a Chevrolet Corvette
13 SCCA National wins 2007-2009
National Winner at:
- Road America
- Watkins Glen
- Mid-Ohio
- GingerMan
- Grattan
- Indianapolis Raceway Park
- Nelson Ledges
5 SCCA National wins and undefeated in regular season of 2008
2008 Detroit Region SCCA National Driver of the year
3 consecutive SCCA Runoffs medals in T1 2007-2009
Former or Current Track Record Holder at
- GingerMan
- Mid-Ohio
- Nelson Ledges
- Indianapolis Raceway Park
Sponsored by Hoosier Racing Tire, Carbotech Brakes

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TEAM GM

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Dr. Jamie Meyer GM, Bob Kern GM, Clifford Cohen GM, Pete Basica Pedders and Micah Kern (no relation) GM

TEAM Saleen

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Jess Albright Saleen, Michael Timarac Saleen, Phil Jankura Austrade and Pete Basica Pedders

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Pete Basica Pedders and John Buttermore Nearbrook Motorsports

Video Clips of the Camaro and Mustang On Track (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddch4glrCFk)

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The media people from Hot Rod and Mustang Enthusiast worked so hard and so long on this event. We can tell you the cars ran all day. John drove them harder than he should have. There are no roll cages or any other safety equipment normally found in a race car. Cages and triangulation change the harmonics of the car making it next to impossible to optimize the suspension for use in a car without a cage. (We did design and build for retail sale three different chassis braces for the Mustang.)

SableGTO
10-27-2010, 01:35 PM
The results!

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